Beautifully expressed, Truth and Justice!
I, too, read what Ray Franz wrote in his book about individuals celebrating the LEM in their homes and the harassment they received. It's our business, not anyone else's!
Thank you!
CoCo
wow!
what a list of new friends we have on this forum, i don't know if i'll ever be able to keep up, but that's ok.. i wanted to dive in to the post to talk about the memorial.
i do not have any intentions of going, even if i was invited.
Beautifully expressed, Truth and Justice!
I, too, read what Ray Franz wrote in his book about individuals celebrating the LEM in their homes and the harassment they received. It's our business, not anyone else's!
Thank you!
CoCo
please post your favorites too.
my favorite quotations:.
you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.. don’t think of cost.
our family and friends blame us for the fact that they shun us.
imagine an abusive husband who threatened his wife that if she leaves him he will hunt her down and kill her.
eventually she finds the courage to leave and he carries out his threat.
Thank you, cofty, for this thread.
To some JWs, I have endeavored to explain my points of view on religious life style and doctrine. Since I have become what is now "old school," I see that many of the old teachings have been tossed aside: types and antitypes, among others.
I had a special place in my heart for the anointed remnant and their position in different classes, i.e., "Naomi and Ruth," etc. Younger ones cannot understand the basis for my now obsolete faith. So then, it would appear that my inability to grasp onto and revere the new, slick religion -- JW.ORG -- makes my relationship with Jehovah (if such remains) suspect.
If I cannot wholeheartedly jump in and support current JW dogma and practice, I am avoided and, yes, on occasion, shunned. It may not be my fault -- thanks for the reassurance, cofty -- yet, it still hurts.
CoCo
english is a great language, especially when it comes to collective nouns.
a "murder" of crows is just fantastic as is a "mob" of meerkats.
a "colony" of ants, a "pride" of lions.
(i never was a dub).. this is something which has intrigued me for a while.
i don't know whether it's dub-speak, or us-speak.. it's the use of the word 'ones' as in 'interested ones', 'worldly ones', 'disfellowshipped ones' and so on and so on.. in the 'normal world' we would probably use the word 'people'.. thoughts?.
As already stated, there is a certain awkwardness whenever the pronoun "one" becomes the subject of a sentence and, in formal structure, must be retained throughout:
On such a lovely day as this, one thinks of happy times past, when one was doing what one wanted, with one's friends.
A bit exaggerated, yes, but correct. Yet, who talks like this? The example above is most likely to be found in literary writing; a contemporary writer would, generally, avoid such a structure, employing a more reader-friendly format. If you were to use a "person" as subject, your follow through of a pronoun in apposition would be either "he" or "she," which could pose other difficulties for the purist, who would never say "they."
Oh, btw, I believe it was noted as a peculiarity in the ARC commentary that the Society uses the term "lands" in place of "counties": i.e., 'Jehovah's Witnesses are found in over ### lands.'
CC
someone asked for a second source on this, so i'm putting this out there to those who may have visited the new wt hq lately and know it to be true.
i had read from others on the ex-jw subreddit that had taken a tour recently at wt hq, that they had been shown photos of a mountain in china, and told that this is where all of the granite is being mined from and shipped over to new york to use at the site of the new wt hq.
apparently, it was cheaper for them to do this and have the local brothers in china mine it, then having to by tons upon tons of granite here in the usa, even wholesale.
It reminds me of kids in the sandbox bragging about all the stuff their dad can do. Childish exaggeration with a childlike mind that will believe anything their parent tells them. -- OrphanCrow
I played with Nana's neighbor kid when I was visiting. We dug and played in the sandbox. I started digging too deep, and she warned me that her dad was going to cut my ears off.
I believed her . . . Thanks, OC, for happy memories revisited!
CC
i had my previous toshiba laptop plugged into the wall five days ago when a sudden electric storm drove a jagged bolt of electricity earthward and fried my hard drive.
i posted my sad status on facebook.
guess who saw it?
I used to purposely read books way over my head which forced me to keep a dictionary handy. I had lists galore stuffed in pockets, on small cards and scraps of paper.
How do I relate, Terry! I continue in this practice because I must (old habits die hard, with a vengeance). Kids in school came to me for the new words I coined. No wonder I was always getting beat up! Too, I teach a creative writing class to folks older than you and I. I particularly like odd usages of ordinary words:1) feeler: a person susceptible to fainting at circus sideshow exhibits
2) domino: a large hooded cloak
3) cartoon: an original pattern for stained glass work
4) came: connecting lead for stained glass pieces
5) dixie: a bilingual ten dollar bill, originating in Louisiana; "dix," French for ten
6) angel: backer for a theatrical production
THANKS!
CoCo
and we are suposed to trust these guys with our lives?
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AWAKE!, May 22, 2005
When this article was written [regarding the "Coffee Cupping Competition"], the JW media and public relations department had already entered multiple “competitions” in an effort to promote and legitimize their videos. This is in complete opposition to what they printed in the very next issue of the Awake magazine, June 8th. In an article on the subject of ambition and humility, the Awake stated: “People who are honest and reliable and who work hard often get noticed, find good employment, and earn respect. Surely, following this course is better than resorting to the manipulation of others for personal gain or competing with others for position.” -- JWSURVEY
i am wondering how much the bethel "allowance" is now?
it used to be $14!
is it true they really sign a vow of proverty now?
Greetings, Esse quam videri:
What great posts! Many thanks!
When I was a kid, in the '50s, we went to the five and dime and bought a ton of stuff with the four bits (fifty cents) Gramps gave us. And a dollar?
Would need a grocery cart.
I visit the Dollar Tree, which has lots of food for . . . you guessed it! One dollar an item. I bought meat for a week for $6.00!
CC
i am wondering how much the bethel "allowance" is now?
it used to be $14!
is it true they really sign a vow of proverty now?
GrreatTeacher:
Yes, that was the belief that sustained me since early childhood. I am now attempting to distinguish between what is reality, what is natural, and what is fantasy, supernatural. I doubt I'll ever succeed totally.
What matters, I guess, is that somehow or other we get by, but then there's the question of those true believers who do not get by, whose prayers are not answered.
I have no clue at this point in my life what's truly going on or what really happened.
THANKS!
CC